John Day, in this interview by Richard Bennett of High Tech Forum, lays out the elements of RINA at a high level, discussees the nature of the RINA transition, and assesses the state of three large-scale RINA trials in Europe. The conversation makes a strong emphasis on cibersecurity – one of the most stringent issues in the current Internet -, analyzing the security ecosystem of the early Internet and how securiy protocols have been incrementally added to the architecture as the Internet has grown (in contrast RINA achieves security by design).